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Aw.  This lunch didn’t turn out quite as I hoped, but it was still pretty tasty.


I was aiming for gooey casserole but ended up with crumbly casserole.


In the mix: brown rice, ricotta cheese, yellow squash, leeks, broccoli, nutritional yeast, egg, and milk.  Topped with Havarti cheese.  I think the problem was the ricotta cheese – just not gooey enough.  Still a good flavor combo, though.


Melon. Melon. MELON!


Something to Talk About


I keep a little list of articles and topics that I find interesting and eventually try to repost most to my blog or Facebook page.  However, my list runneth over today!  So here’s a ton of randomness.  I’m sure we’ll find something to talk about!


Space Invaders: Why You Should Never, Ever Use Two Spaces After a Period


First of all, who remembers the computer game Space Invaders?  So much awesomeness.  Anyways, see what I did right there?  Yup.  Two spaces after my punctuation.  That’s what I learned was ‘correct’ – and despite this articles very well argued point, I’m standing by my point (hahaha).  So – what do you think?  One space or two?


The Original Girls on the Run


I thought fellow GOTR coaches would LOVE this picture – it’s from 1997 and shows Molly Barker, then 36, with the original 13 GOTR girls. I looked at this picture for a long, long time.  It’s funny how you can look back on a photograph with the power of hindsight and realize what a big deal a particular moment was – who would have ever predicted that Molly’s program would expand to serve over 1/4 a million girls?  Also, I love this picture because I think a lot of us feel like if we don’t have it ‘figured out’ in our 20s, we never will.  Molly didn’t find her career calling until she was 36 – and look where she took it from there.


Energy Efficiency Kit


If you’re a Duke Energy customer, you can get a FREE box of Compact Fluorescent Light (CFL) bulbs by doing a Home Energy House Call.  Heck, I saved probably $20 on the bulbs alone, not to mention the savings in my energy bill.  How sweet is that?


Splish Suits


Rae told me about this great website – Splish – which sells fun fitness and regular bathing suits. They sell “grab bags” that range from $17.50 to $35 – you pick the style and size, they pick the print.  And the prints are AWESOME.  I especially love the Tiger Stripe suit, the Kitty suit, the Fast Bunny suit, the All Business suit, and the Super Woman suit.  I will 100% be buying one of these post-baby.  It would make swimming laps SO MUCH MORE FUN.


Dear Prudence


Y’all know I love a good advice column, but the first letter on Monday’s Dear Prudence takes the vegan cake.  It’s from a Grandma who fed her (vegan) granddaughter meat and cheese, and when the daughter-in-law freaked out, Grammie called Child Protective Services to report her horrendous vegan neglect.  Now, she can’t understand why CPS isn’t acting.  I kid you not.  Read and feel thankful that, no matter how crazy your family is, they hopefully aren’t that nutso.  Hopefully.


Aaaand discuss.  One space or two?  GOTR love and affection?  Sweet bathing suits?  And overbearing grandparents?  Go!



  • Annette@FitnessPerks May 22, 2012, 2:48 pm

    2 spaces!!! It’s what I’ve always been taught 🙂 But I guess, in the end, does it really even matteR?!

    And heck YES to the crazy swimsuits!! Love ’em.

  • Anne Weber-Falk May 22, 2012, 2:53 pm

    Two spaces!

  • Sara May 22, 2012, 2:54 pm

    I was taught two spaces in middle school English class, but as a print journalist, it’s frowned upon. (From AP Stylebook: periods (.) … SPACING: Use a single space after a period at the end of a sentence. Source: AP Stylebook, Punctuation section)) Perhaps that’s why it was acceptable in English class and not with my editor. I love the photo! Did you notice one of the girls has a Diet Coke in her hand?

    • CaitlinHTP May 22, 2012, 2:57 pm

      haha YES! I had to laugh at that because that would be a huge no-no at GOTR today.

      • Sara May 22, 2012, 2:58 pm

        I thought so! Couldn’t believe a child went to GOTR w/ a Diet Coke!

  • Sunny May 22, 2012, 2:59 pm

    2 spaces! That’s what I was taught in school. The crazy swimsuits are awesome!

  • Lexi @ You, Me, & A World to See May 22, 2012, 3:00 pm

    Havarti is the best! Love gooey casseroles 🙂

  • Megan@ The Running Doc May 22, 2012, 3:05 pm

    I had no idea that one space is actually the correct way to type. I’ve always used 2 spaces and swear I can remember learning that in school at one point! And to be honest, I think it looks better with 2 spaces especially if it’s a long document.
    And I have been itching to get back into swimming and this Splish website might be just the motivation I need. One of those suits would definitely be a conversation starter at the pool.

  • Lindsay Loves Veggies May 22, 2012, 3:07 pm

    Definitely two spaces. Always.

    I can’t believe that a grandmother called CPS over a vegan diet! It would make more sense to call CPS about the fast food diets that some parents have their children on!

  • Angela @ Eat Spin Run Repeat May 22, 2012, 3:08 pm

    Those swim suits are great!!! I want the tiger one. That photo of Molly and the original GOTR girls is great. I love what you said about not knowing what our calling is until later on in life. I’m one of those people that thought I’d have it all figured out by now, but that is so far from the truth! Thanks for sharing these Caitlin!

  • Morgan May 22, 2012, 3:08 pm

    Per AP style (I’m a journalist), only one space!

    Is it just me, or did you skip a couple of weeks of pregnancy updates?

  • Erin May 22, 2012, 3:10 pm

    I was taught two spaces. Sentences just look strange to me with one, I can’t change!

  • Stacie May 22, 2012, 3:13 pm

    I use two. In my “defense,” I learned to type BEFORE personal computers (yes, I’m old) on a typewriter and the article admits that on old typewriters two spaces made the article easier to read!

    I agree it’s probably no longer necessary but I’ve been typing for more than 30 years (10 years on a typewriter) so it’s a very hard habit to change!

  • Brigid May 22, 2012, 3:14 pm

    ONE space! Two spaces goes back to the days of typewriters. Also, like someone said above, two is not in line with AP Style.

    The swimmies are too cute. My fitness suit couldn’t be more boring.

    • Tricia May 23, 2012, 11:23 am

      Exactly! The two space rule comes from the typewriter days. I use one space only. I often collaborate with coworkers on reports and it drives me crazy when they use two spaces.

      • Brigid May 23, 2012, 12:35 pm

        I’m the official proofreader at my agency, so I’m systematically removing all the double spaces. 🙂

  • Maggie @ Healthy Urban Hearth May 22, 2012, 3:14 pm

    The spaces after a period are totally dependent on what style of publication you’re writing for. For AP (associated press) style, one space after a period is correct. Most scholastic styles at the elementary level teach two spaces (maybe because it’s easier for kids to learn, similar to using a larger type size). In most advanced writing styles, one space after a period is correct. If you’re not writing for a professional publication, or if your profession doesn’t advocate a certain style guide, I doubt you’d lose your job over it :P.

    That Grandma is cray cray.

  • Amber @ Busy, Bold, Blessed May 22, 2012, 3:16 pm

    Dang! My teachers taught me 2 spaces and I think that’s what I’ll keep on doing. Nobody has ever told me it’s wrong in a technical report, so I guess I’ll keep on keepin’ on with my evil 2 spaces hehe.

  • Julia Steele May 22, 2012, 3:17 pm

    How on earth am I going to break the two space habit?

  • Samantha May 22, 2012, 3:18 pm

    I’m agreeing with the article – it’s one space! And I love that picture of Molly. So inspiring.

  • Jen May 22, 2012, 3:20 pm

    As a child I loved to write stories on my Grandparent’s (very basic) computer. While watching me type, my Grandma told me that it was wrong to use 1 space and that I had to use 2. At first, I argued with her and insisted that 1 space was correct. Eventually I was convinced because Grandma wouldn’t lie to me. Well, evidently she would. Or at least she would try to constrict my spacing creativity.

    I use 1 or 2 spaces depending on the situation. While writing this comment I am using 1 space because 2 spaces looks huge in this format. But when I’m writing in Word or email I will usually type 2 spaces. For me, 1 or 2 spaces depends on the font and spacing between the letters.

    In college I took a class with a typographer and he was SO enthusiastic about type, font size, spacing – it was unbelievable. Typographers are obsessed with type. They refuse to use ‘knock off’ fonts and get really angry when someone refers to Arial as their favorite font. (Arial is considered a knock off of Helvetica!)

    My current boss loves spaces. She tosses them in willy-nilly. 1 space between these sentences – 4 spaces between those sentences. She spaces where-ever and whenever she wants…and I delete those extra spaces to match, and also to conform, to the 2 spaces used in work email templates.

    For me, the 1 or 2 space debate depends on a lot of factors. One thing I know for sure is that I wish I had stuck to my 1 space freedom of expression as a child 🙂

  • Steph @ A Life without Ice Cream May 22, 2012, 3:27 pm

    Love the randomness!

    I’ve always been a two space person (despite the editing department at my work insisting on otherwise). I’ve just never tried to break the habit. That article may have convinced me to try. But even writing this comment was hard :S

  • Earthy Nicole May 22, 2012, 3:32 pm

    Omigosh! I never noticed you use two spaces but now it’s driving me insane to see it in your post! I don’t think I could ever be persuaded to use two spaces, ever, even if it IS right. 🙂

    And the Dear Prudence letter kills me… When I first went vegetarian, most of my friends and family thought I was going to die from lack of protein or something. Well, I stuck to a vegan diet while I was breastfeeding and everyone couldn’t get over how small my little girl was and thought it must be because I was depriving her. I knew we were both healthy and so did our doctors so I don’t stress out about it but I’m always afraid someone’s going to try and slip meat to my kid when I’m not looking, thinking they’re helping. I’m going to let my daughter make her own decisions about what she eats when she’s older but if anyone else tried to impose like that I’d freak out. And calling children services… geesh, that’s just funny that they didn’t do anything. Silly lady.

  • Ericka @ The Sweet Life May 22, 2012, 3:35 pm

    Appreciate your comment about Molly Barker. The age thing gets to me sometimes…always feeling like you need to have it “figured out.” But, you are right and her life is such an example of that. 36 — or older. Just keeping trying to find it.

  • Heather May 22, 2012, 3:38 pm

    1. I would love to see some of the original girls on the run recreate that image with Molly.

    2. Swim suit up! [Barney voice]

  • Jill Will Run May 22, 2012, 3:39 pm

    I love those swimsuits, just not sure I’d be brave enough to rock one!

    I’ve always done two-spaces, but in recent years I’ve tried to convert to one. But it’s hard!

    I loved the response on the Dear Prudence question. No sugar-coating it… Grandma was crazy!

  • Rae May 22, 2012, 3:41 pm

    yesss!! I can’t wait to see your cat suit post baby…you can even design a HTP one if you want (though I personally go for the grab bags). Awesome shot of Molly Barker…it’s amazing how awesome ideas start out small…so easy to forget how much one has acheived until they look back!

  • Maggie May 22, 2012, 3:42 pm

    I did 2 spaces until I started my first “real” job 5 years ago when someone said no one did that any more. I am glad I got to extend all my college papers with 2 spaces though!

    And that grandmother is crazy. I know vegan-ism is controversial, but calling CPS, really? Wow.

  • Elizabeth @ reads recipes runs May 22, 2012, 3:46 pm

    OMG I HATE when people use two spaces. I was an editor for years and I can’t stand it anymore.

  • Peach May 22, 2012, 3:46 pm

    I read that Dear Prudence earlier and it made me shudder. I am a grown woman, life long vegetarian, and even I am dealing with this still! Last weekend my boyfriend’s mom fed me soup saying it was vegetarian. A few minutes into the bowl, my boyfriend came in and told me to stop eating because it was cooked with sausage!! I swear, some people just can’t comprehend a vegetarian/vegan diet. It saddens me that people can be so close minded to other ways of life.

    • Michal May 22, 2012, 6:01 pm

      Hahaha, I once spent a half hour explaining veganism to a Meeting Planner and at the end of the half hour, she asked me, “So would chicken be okay?”

      • Peach May 22, 2012, 10:36 pm

        Yes. Exactly! Or the whole “as long as your not chewing chunks of meat” it’s vegetarian.

  • Erin May 22, 2012, 3:50 pm

    Two spaces, here. I just can’t seem to get the hang of one space. My thumb just automatically pushes the space bar twice!

    Love the funky suits! Going to check those out right now.

  • Sarah @ See Sarah Eat May 22, 2012, 3:54 pm

    I was always taught two spaces in school. But then in college, especially writing for the school newspaper, I began to use just one space and I have been doing that for years. I can’t imagine going back to two! Although for some reason, I still put two after a semicolon, ha ha.

  • Sarah May 22, 2012, 4:00 pm

    I am in that Girls on the Run picture. I keep in touch with Molly, and two of the other girls are still some of my best friends today.

    I am still a runner, and that led me to your blog last year – I’ve always followed your relationship with Molly but have never commented. Funny how things come full circle!

    I love your blog and was so shocked and excited to see my third grade face pop up on it today!

    • CaitlinHTP May 22, 2012, 4:02 pm

      THIS IS SO COOL!!!! What do you remember of the first GOTR? How did it influence you? I would love to hear more details.

      • Sarah May 22, 2012, 4:09 pm

        I remember bits and pieces! I remember a lot about Molly then, and I remember running my first 5k with some of those girls and my mom. I thought it was so so far to run! I also assistant coached in high school with another girl in that picture. A lot of cool things have come out of the experience of being in that group and getting to know Molly!

      • Julie May 22, 2012, 5:05 pm

        What a small world! How cool is that?!

  • Kimberly May 22, 2012, 4:00 pm

    I added the column to my “to read” list – her answers were awesome!

  • Candice May 22, 2012, 4:18 pm

    Your editor must have been like–oh snap! Find and replace all the two spaces and fix that ASAP! The reason two spaces was the norm was for characters in typewriting. But now our fonts are formatted so there doesn’t need to be extra space after a period–it’s already legibly built in.

  • Karen @ Run Shop Travel May 22, 2012, 4:18 pm

    Fellow Dear Prudence lover here! She makes Mondays a little more bearable!

    Also – one space after the period all the way! Reading paragraphs/documents with 2 spaces after each sentence drives me nuts!

  • Helena May 22, 2012, 4:35 pm

    I’ve honestly never even heard of two spaces! That’s all I’m going to see in your posts now! 🙂

  • Anna S. May 22, 2012, 4:36 pm

    I use two spaces because it makes my papers longer. Haha.

  • Katie @ Peace Love and Oats May 22, 2012, 4:37 pm

    This is blowing my mind. I have never heard of using 2 spaces, ever. I went to a college prep school and was definitely taught one space. I can’t even fathom this two space concept.

  • Anonymous May 22, 2012, 5:03 pm

    Comment removed per reader request 🙂

    • Julie (A Case of the Runs) May 22, 2012, 5:33 pm

      I’m kinda sad about the dissertation comment — I wrote mine with two spaces, and according to the APA (American Psychological Association) manual that is the guideline for publication and research in not just psychology but other disciplines as well, the new recommendation is TWO spaces after the period, mostly for readability reasons. As someone who reviews a lot of papers, I completely agree with the recommendation. Now, journals can do whatever they want once a manuscript is submitted, and just because they adjust it to one space doesn’t mean it’s wrong to have two.

      In fact, HTML and other programming languages will convert two spaces into one just because it doesn’t recognize subsequent spaces. This could be why many journals/blogs/etc. have moved over to one space. I’m pretty sure there won’t be any “right” answer anytime soon. Regardless, really, I’d like to think using “Dr. Doublespaceafterperiods” is a little offensive, and I’m sorry that you seem to view Ph.D.s as an insistent and know-it-all bunch.

      • Anonymous May 23, 2012, 10:42 am

        Comment removed per reader request 🙂

  • Julie May 22, 2012, 5:08 pm

    I had no idea people actually used 1 space after a period until now. Gasp! I’ve never even noticed a difference when reading. I will FOREVER be a 2-spacer ‘cuz that’s correct! 😛

    Loved Prudence’s response to Granny! She was 100% right on!

  • Kendra @ My Full-Thyme Life May 22, 2012, 5:14 pm

    Two spaces. All. The. Way! I don’t even know where I learned that. Was it as early as elementary school? Oh well, it’s habit now and will take more than a pretentious typographer to make me stop! HA!

  • Julie (A Case of the Runs) May 22, 2012, 5:17 pm

    I have always been a “two-spaces” girl, as it is the official recommended punctuation rule from the American Psychological Association (APA), which governs journal and dissertation formats among other things. Plus, it’s what I learned in grade school, so it can’t be wrong!

    Those swim suits are cute. I wonder if they are as secure as my Speedos, as I am a novice swimmer. 😉

  • Jessi May 22, 2012, 5:20 pm

    Best swimsuits ever!

  • Hillary May 22, 2012, 5:22 pm

    As an English teacher, I have to say loud and clear:

    ONE SPACE!! ; )

  • Tara May 22, 2012, 5:42 pm

    I hate to call a grandmother an asshole, but she is. What an idiot/horrible human being.

  • Mark May 22, 2012, 5:47 pm

    The spacing author admits that using a single space vs. a double space is pretty arbitrary on both sides; but I have to disagree with his opinion that documents with two spaces look “hollow” while documents with one look “correct”. For me, two spaces enhances readability. And if all of the other arguments are fairly arbitrary, my job does not require/enforce one over the other, and I find practical use for two spaces in my writing, then I am going to keep right in using the two spaces.

  • Michal May 22, 2012, 5:58 pm

    I recently sat through a meal at a friend’s where the other guests went on for quite a while that they could respect my choice to be vegan UNTIL I try to raise a child that way. I was tempted to email my friend some info supporting vegan childhood diets I came across the next week, but resisted.

    Still, this response strikes me as … mean-hearted. I don’t think this response would promote understanding, and therefore misses a big opportunity.

  • Katie @ Soulshine and Sassafras May 22, 2012, 6:37 pm

    I drove past a GOTR 5k this weekend and thought of you!

  • Lisa @ Jogging on Coffee May 22, 2012, 6:48 pm

    We have to use 2 spaces at work and I did that for my thesis as well, although that was mainly because I wanted to make it seem as long as I possibly could 😛 I usually only use one space in my own writing through.

  • Morgan May 22, 2012, 6:59 pm

    When I was in middle and high school, we were taught 2 spaces. But in college, we were told that the rules had changed and it was officially only 1 space.

  • Laura May 22, 2012, 7:51 pm

    I come from a journalism background, which means one space.

  • Mary Nell May 22, 2012, 7:52 pm

    I was taught two spaces so it is so hard not to do it when typing.

  • Anna May 22, 2012, 8:02 pm

    I think I need that tiger stripe suit!!

  • Tahlia May 22, 2012, 8:18 pm

    Would just like to say that I have been reading HTP since before it was HTP and after a huge break from blogs I have come back to them and am astounded to see you’re about to give birth!! Congrats! And in regards to the space after a period, I think that I was taught one space. But I’m from Australia so I don’t know if that has anything to do with it?

  • emily May 22, 2012, 8:20 pm

    Two spaces, always. No one will ever convince me otherwise.

    I’m as obsessed with Dear Prudie as you are and I loooved her response to that grandma.

  • Alexa @ The Girl In Chucks May 22, 2012, 8:22 pm

    Always single space. Always.

  • Julie May 22, 2012, 8:25 pm

    I’ve been on a big havarti kick lately, love it!!

  • Judy May 22, 2012, 8:37 pm

    One space. I say, taking a firm step up to the space bar. And here’s why:

    In days of old, way back when, before the computer age of now with ink jet and laser printers, type was set with mono fonts where an “l” took up less space than an “a”, the rule was two spaces at the end of every sentence in order to even out the type on the page. Enter the computer age with proportional fonts where the computer automatically adjusts the spacing to even out all those l’s, i’s, a’s and c’s so a long space (double)is no longer necessary.

    You can still throw in those two spaces when writing missives to your friends and relatives; however, in business correspondence one space is the rule. It is not optional. Your editor will be unhappy because she will have to take all those extra spaces out, and the corporate president will think you’re a crackpot.

    So do yourself a favor and save that extra thumb tap for something else. In no time tapping out two spaces at the end of every sentence will seem like too much redundancy.

    Brought to you by someone with way too much time on their hands.

  • Kris @ tryingtotri May 22, 2012, 8:49 pm

    I think I was taught one space – I really can’t remember! I know I only ever use one.

    As for the vegan violator… oh my. I have no words. We have no strongly held dietary or religious restrictions, but my son has asthma, so no one is allowed to smoke around him. I had several fights with my late ex-FIL over that one – stop smoking around him or you will not be allowed to see him!

  • Maria May 22, 2012, 8:54 pm

    I’m a two space kind of gal but they are teaching kids differently these days. I was proofreading my sister’s college paper the other day, and I was baffled as to why she had only one space after all of her sentences. She said they were “supposed” to be that way.

  • Sana May 22, 2012, 9:32 pm

    I had only heard of GOTR b/c of you until a woman in my walking class told me that she was going to be her granddaughter’s buddy for the end of season 5k because her daughter (the girls mother) not mentally well. I love that the woman in my class was able to do the 5k in 44 minutes after we had been working out together for a few month! GOTR really makes a difference in people’s lives, not only for girls but their families as well!
    Thanks 🙂

  • TiffanyS May 22, 2012, 11:54 pm

    I was taught to use 2 spaces. I’ve been told by our ‘Communications’ department at work that 1 space is now appropriate. But, you can’t take years of training out of a person so easily. I think consistency is key. If you use two spaces or one just do it the same throughout.

  • Jen May 23, 2012, 12:04 am

    Two spaces…always!!! I have, however, noticed that when I post comments on blogs/websites, my two spaces often – if not always – are automatically converted to one! Maybe this explains that mystery… I’m pretty sure that happens on this site (I’m about to find out). 🙂

    Also, LOVE the early GOTR pic & the fun swimsuits!!!

  • Jen May 23, 2012, 12:09 am

    Yep! Apparently, the blogospere has deemed me a “space invader!”

    • Jen May 23, 2012, 12:13 am


      (Sigh…it “corrected” my spacing. Why couldn’t it correct my spelling?) 🙂

  • Amber K May 23, 2012, 1:24 pm

    I hate it when articles only use one space after the period. It makes everything run together. Not the worst thing ever, but I’m sticking to two!

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