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	<title>Comments on: The Big Vegetarian/Vegan Question</title>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://www.healthytippingpoint.com/2009/11/the-big-vegetarianvegan-question.html#comment-107075</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you <img src='http://www.healthytippingpoint.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maureen @ Notes on a Visual Life</title>
		<link>http://www.healthytippingpoint.com/2009/11/the-big-vegetarianvegan-question.html#comment-107046</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen @ Notes on a Visual Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m really coming in on this late. Just discovered the blog and am lovin&#039; it! I just read through loads of comments and one thing stuck out to me so much that I just can&#039;t keep my mouth/keyboard shut. Commenter Jenna H.(#34) wrote that she does see vegetarians as hypocrites for not being vegan. Fair enough. But she, a vegan, does do drugs. But where do those drugs come from? Firstly, the adderall capsules contain gelatin (a vegan no-no) and secondly (more importantly) who on earth knows where the coke came from? Thousands of HUMANS are  brutally murdered each year in drug trafficking violence. There is a decent chance the coke that just went into your body has human blood on it (metaphorically speaking). I think I could sleep better at night knowing I ate an egg from a friend&#039;s backyard coop. Again, to each her own and drug use is a TOTALLY different topic but I think we have to be aware of what we&#039;re consuming whether it be our food, personal care products, OR drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m really coming in on this late. Just discovered the blog and am lovin&#8217; it! I just read through loads of comments and one thing stuck out to me so much that I just can&#8217;t keep my mouth/keyboard shut. Commenter Jenna H.(#34) wrote that she does see vegetarians as hypocrites for not being vegan. Fair enough. But she, a vegan, does do drugs. But where do those drugs come from? Firstly, the adderall capsules contain gelatin (a vegan no-no) and secondly (more importantly) who on earth knows where the coke came from? Thousands of HUMANS are  brutally murdered each year in drug trafficking violence. There is a decent chance the coke that just went into your body has human blood on it (metaphorically speaking). I think I could sleep better at night knowing I ate an egg from a friend&#8217;s backyard coop. Again, to each her own and drug use is a TOTALLY different topic but I think we have to be aware of what we&#8217;re consuming whether it be our food, personal care products, OR drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually heard a piece on NPR several months ago about bio-degradable coffins and other enviro-methods of of funeral services and such. VERY intersting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually heard a piece on NPR several months ago about bio-degradable coffins and other enviro-methods of of funeral services and such. VERY intersting.</p>
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		<title>By: I Walk In This World &#187; Blog Archive &#187; No Food</title>
		<link>http://www.healthytippingpoint.com/2009/11/the-big-vegetarianvegan-question.html#comment-49350</link>
		<dc:creator>I Walk In This World &#187; Blog Archive &#187; No Food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A relevant and serious debate happened a few days ago over here about vegetarians, vegans, etc.  Interesting thoughts, especially in light of Ethical [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A relevant and serious debate happened a few days ago over here about vegetarians, vegans, etc.  Interesting thoughts, especially in light of Ethical [...]</p>
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		<title>By: caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true - i agree! labels are tricky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true &#8211; i agree! labels are tricky.</p>
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		<title>By: caitlin</title>
		<link>http://www.healthytippingpoint.com/2009/11/the-big-vegetarianvegan-question.html#comment-49316</link>
		<dc:creator>caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you so much for including this perspective! it was REALLY interesting for me to read. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you so much for including this perspective! it was REALLY interesting for me to read. <img src='http://www.healthytippingpoint.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://www.healthytippingpoint.com/2009/11/the-big-vegetarianvegan-question.html#comment-49310</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a (non-organic) dairy farmer holding a research-based master&#039;s degree in animal science, I want to reiterate what Amanda said about being careful about the sources you rely on for information about animal agriculture.  The sources you sited in this post (veganoutreach, Food Inc., Skinny Bitch) are all extremely biased against animal agriculture.  In fact, the statement you made about farmers impregnating their cows twice a year is just plain wrong - cows&#039; gestation periods are about 9 months (like humans), and due to their reproductive and lactation cycles, most are not able to become pregnant within the first few months after calving.  A cow that is able to become pregnant twice in a year is actually a very healthy cow!

Amanda also hit the nail on the head with this statement: &quot;There are also a lot of uninformed people drawing up opinions on practices that they do not understand.&quot;  Over a century of research has been and continues to be conducted to learn about the best ways to care for our farm animals.  In fact, many universities have entire departments dedicted to animal science teaching and research. Many animal husbandry practices that seem cruel are actually more humane than the alternatives that the general public perceive to be better.  The bottom line is that if farmers (big or small, family or corporate, organic or not) do a good job of caring for their animals their animals will produce and be profitable for them.  In fact, cow COMFORT is one of the most important aspects of a well-managed dairy!  We choose cow housing and bedding that keeps our cows clean and dry, and provide shade, fans, and sprinklers during periods of summer heat stress. Comfortable cow = happy cow = productive cow.  Animal welfare is extremely important to all farmers, despite what some of those biased sources would have you believe.

So, please don&#039;t paint all of animal agriculture with the &quot;bad&quot; label.  Yes, there are farmers that do it better than others, and, just as in every industry, there are people who don&#039;t do what is right or ethical.  But, for the most part, farmers (organic or not!) are good people who do the best they can to take good care of their animals and the environment.  That is their livelihood, after all!

As you can probably tell, I am very passionate about this topic, and I could seriously go on for days.  I do appreciate your open-mindedness for all eating styles, and that you open up questions like this for discussion on your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a (non-organic) dairy farmer holding a research-based master&#8217;s degree in animal science, I want to reiterate what Amanda said about being careful about the sources you rely on for information about animal agriculture.  The sources you sited in this post (veganoutreach, Food Inc., Skinny Bitch) are all extremely biased against animal agriculture.  In fact, the statement you made about farmers impregnating their cows twice a year is just plain wrong &#8211; cows&#8217; gestation periods are about 9 months (like humans), and due to their reproductive and lactation cycles, most are not able to become pregnant within the first few months after calving.  A cow that is able to become pregnant twice in a year is actually a very healthy cow!</p>
<p>Amanda also hit the nail on the head with this statement: &#8220;There are also a lot of uninformed people drawing up opinions on practices that they do not understand.&#8221;  Over a century of research has been and continues to be conducted to learn about the best ways to care for our farm animals.  In fact, many universities have entire departments dedicted to animal science teaching and research. Many animal husbandry practices that seem cruel are actually more humane than the alternatives that the general public perceive to be better.  The bottom line is that if farmers (big or small, family or corporate, organic or not) do a good job of caring for their animals their animals will produce and be profitable for them.  In fact, cow COMFORT is one of the most important aspects of a well-managed dairy!  We choose cow housing and bedding that keeps our cows clean and dry, and provide shade, fans, and sprinklers during periods of summer heat stress. Comfortable cow = happy cow = productive cow.  Animal welfare is extremely important to all farmers, despite what some of those biased sources would have you believe.</p>
<p>So, please don&#8217;t paint all of animal agriculture with the &#8220;bad&#8221; label.  Yes, there are farmers that do it better than others, and, just as in every industry, there are people who don&#8217;t do what is right or ethical.  But, for the most part, farmers (organic or not!) are good people who do the best they can to take good care of their animals and the environment.  That is their livelihood, after all!</p>
<p>As you can probably tell, I am very passionate about this topic, and I could seriously go on for days.  I do appreciate your open-mindedness for all eating styles, and that you open up questions like this for discussion on your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole, MS, RD, LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole, MS, RD, LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! So glad I ran across your blog! I am not a vegetarian or a vegan, but more flexitarian than anything. I limit most meats, especially red. I can count on one hand how many times I have red meat in a year. I consume at LEAST 1, if not 2 or 3 meat-free meals a day. I do feel that those following a vegetarian diet have an obligation to purchase free-range, organic eggs and milk, especially if they abstain from meat due to ethical and humane issues. Eggs and milk are the 2 items I insist on buying organic and all-natural. My husband is a penny pincher, so it is a constant battle to get what I &quot;want&quot; as far as organic. Great post, love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! So glad I ran across your blog! I am not a vegetarian or a vegan, but more flexitarian than anything. I limit most meats, especially red. I can count on one hand how many times I have red meat in a year. I consume at LEAST 1, if not 2 or 3 meat-free meals a day. I do feel that those following a vegetarian diet have an obligation to purchase free-range, organic eggs and milk, especially if they abstain from meat due to ethical and humane issues. Eggs and milk are the 2 items I insist on buying organic and all-natural. My husband is a penny pincher, so it is a constant battle to get what I &#8220;want&#8221; as far as organic. Great post, love it!</p>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think by putting labels like vegetarian, vegan, or whatever on oneself is what fosters the idea of hypocrisy, because it means there is some ideal to attain to, and someone will always be &quot;more vegetarian&quot; than someone else. I don&#039;t know - I&#039;m just not for labeling the way you eat. Eat what you eat, for the reasons you want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think by putting labels like vegetarian, vegan, or whatever on oneself is what fosters the idea of hypocrisy, because it means there is some ideal to attain to, and someone will always be &#8220;more vegetarian&#8221; than someone else. I don&#8217;t know &#8211; I&#8217;m just not for labeling the way you eat. Eat what you eat, for the reasons you want to.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very small portion of the soybeans grown in the US actually end up being consumed by humans.  Virtually none of the soybean crop in Iowa is garden or vegetable variety, they are field soybeans, used primarily for oil and animal feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very small portion of the soybeans grown in the US actually end up being consumed by humans.  Virtually none of the soybean crop in Iowa is garden or vegetable variety, they are field soybeans, used primarily for oil and animal feed.</p>
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